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Commodorian (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
I use C64ASM v1.1a
mjp29mjp29 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
The man is a genius.I grew up using my first computers in the 80's.The Apples were premium (cost the most) and worked well.For the middle class consumer it was either the Commodore or the Atari, and having both the Atari system worked better (800xl line that is).The Commodore 64 however owned the market as there were far far more programs and mostly games for it than any other computer out there.Interesting how Jack later jumped to Atari after Commodore jacked Jack.
6581R4 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
no but they are all the the same kind of sound chips, producing triangle, sawtooth, and square waves, and white noise waveforms
SaganAppreciationSoc (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Which disk drive? The 1MB one that most people are unaware of, or the 1541? The 1541 rocked in that is had it's own 6502, RAM and ROM, which is why it multitasked so well. Yet it was cheaper than the Apple drive. And the Apple II required a "drive controller" card too. Using the 1541's ROMmed routines, I/O was indeed slow. Most people never bothered loading any other "DOS" (which Apples HAD to load first) then the drive was screaming fast. And it also stored more than the Apple and Atari drives.
SaganAppreciationSoc (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
The Apple II didn't show 40 columns well (even though their characters were only 7x8 instead of 8x8 like on the Vic & C64). And like the C64, you needed an additional card to show 80 columns. There were a few 80-column "software solutions" for the C64, one of which worked very well: CB Font. An "upgrade", called CB Term actually looked less readable. The Compute's Gazette "Screen 80" worked but the font was ugly. Using a color composite worked better than an RGB for 80 columns on a C64 in my exp
6581R4 (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
The C64 didn't show 80 columns well, even with a monochrome monitor, and the disk drive was junk.
xxxogchris (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
I have a question:Why do the C64, gameboy and atari have similar if not the same sounds?Did they use a similar sound chip?
SaganAppreciationSoc (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
Agreed, the European development of various computers is interesting. I wish they had withstood the brainless impulse to go IBM clone. Now the world appears stuck with x86.
SaganAppreciationSoc (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
You're using a cross assembler for demos? More details please.
SaganAppreciationSoc (December 31, 1969 at 6:59 pm)
One can only guess why Tramiel didn't use MOS position to damage or kill the other 6502 systems like the Atari and Apples.The Apple 8-bit family excelled at one thing: baseless hype. In fact they were the worst of the 6502 based computers. Even the Vic-20 is, by and large, better. Scary when you think about that. If they hadn't cheaped on the resolution that would have been more readily apparent. |
